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		By: Lizzie Harper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lizzie Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 08:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10328&quot;&gt;Louisa Gay&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Louisa

This is very weird.  In the UK Yorkshire fog is rather a well-loved fodder crop for sheep and cattle (don&#039;t know about horses), and is an important part of hay crops.  It certainly doesn&#039;t have deep roots, and I think you&#039;re right that it doesn&#039;t grow with stolons or tillers.  I wonder if maybe youre fighting a different species?  I&#039;m far from an expert on grasses, but you could get in touch with the Botanical Society of Britain and Ireland https://bsbi.org/contact-us who may be able to point you in the right direction for academic research on root depths?  Sorry not to be more use,  Yours Lizzie]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10328">Louisa Gay</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Louisa</p>
<p>This is very weird.  In the UK Yorkshire fog is rather a well-loved fodder crop for sheep and cattle (don&#8217;t know about horses), and is an important part of hay crops.  It certainly doesn&#8217;t have deep roots, and I think you&#8217;re right that it doesn&#8217;t grow with stolons or tillers.  I wonder if maybe youre fighting a different species?  I&#8217;m far from an expert on grasses, but you could get in touch with the Botanical Society of Britain and Ireland https://bsbi.org/contact-us who may be able to point you in the right direction for academic research on root depths?  Sorry not to be more use,  Yours Lizzie</p>
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		By: Louisa Gay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Louisa Gay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2025 15:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello,

I live in Virginia (USA) and have a small farm for equids &#038; cattle (sometimes). We consider this an invasive species because it is not grazed by horses or cattle. I have fought Yorkshire fog hard for 2 years in succession and hope you can advise me as to the root depth.  Some papers indicate it is deep; however, in my grubbing, using a grub hoe, and taking out 3-4 inches of soil with it, I have found no evidence of roots at any significant depth per se.  I see tillers but do not observe stolons (it can grow sideways though).  I often find YF grows in what I would term grass litter/duff on the pasture floor.  Does ANY scientific paper indicate the root depth of this grass?   I can send you hundreds of image if you think I am barking up the wrong tree so to speak.   Thank you, Louisa]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I live in Virginia (USA) and have a small farm for equids &amp; cattle (sometimes). We consider this an invasive species because it is not grazed by horses or cattle. I have fought Yorkshire fog hard for 2 years in succession and hope you can advise me as to the root depth.  Some papers indicate it is deep; however, in my grubbing, using a grub hoe, and taking out 3-4 inches of soil with it, I have found no evidence of roots at any significant depth per se.  I see tillers but do not observe stolons (it can grow sideways though).  I often find YF grows in what I would term grass litter/duff on the pasture floor.  Does ANY scientific paper indicate the root depth of this grass?   I can send you hundreds of image if you think I am barking up the wrong tree so to speak.   Thank you, Louisa</p>
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		By: Lizzie Harper		</title>
		<link>https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10187</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lizzie Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2025 14:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10181&quot;&gt;Malcolm Wilkinson&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Malcolm

Thanks so much, Im glad you enjoyed my blog.  I know, the minute details of grasses is so exciting!  Not sure why the vernal grass doesnt smell for you - maybe try drying it out, then take a sniff?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10181">Malcolm Wilkinson</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Malcolm</p>
<p>Thanks so much, Im glad you enjoyed my blog.  I know, the minute details of grasses is so exciting!  Not sure why the vernal grass doesnt smell for you &#8211; maybe try drying it out, then take a sniff?</p>
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		By: Malcolm Wilkinson		</title>
		<link>https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10181</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malcolm Wilkinson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 20:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only just discovered your site. Wonderful descriptions and drawings! Thank you. I get excited this time of year as the first scented vernal grasses and meadow foxtails appear. The changing flower structures as they mature are fascinating.  However it doesn&#039;t matter how many times I crush the sweet vernal grass it never seems to offer up its scent for me! Thanks again]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only just discovered your site. Wonderful descriptions and drawings! Thank you. I get excited this time of year as the first scented vernal grasses and meadow foxtails appear. The changing flower structures as they mature are fascinating.  However it doesn&#8217;t matter how many times I crush the sweet vernal grass it never seems to offer up its scent for me! Thanks again</p>
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		By: Lizzie Harper		</title>
		<link>https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10114</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lizzie Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2025 15:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10092&quot;&gt;Rhidian&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10092">Rhidian</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		By: Rhidian		</title>
		<link>https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10092</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhidian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 19:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article and thanks - Landscaper here based in Cardiff. Rhidian :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and thanks &#8211; Landscaper here based in Cardiff. Rhidian 🙂</p>
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		By: Lizzie Harper		</title>
		<link>https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10014</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lizzie Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2025 22:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-9990&quot;&gt;Alison Franks&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Alison, thanks so much for your kind comments.  I love that youre doing id from horse hay - nothing lie making a job challenging for yourself!  Start by seeing if you can spot easy ones, like rye grass or timothy grass and work up from that.  Good luck!  I think it sounds like a great project!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-9990">Alison Franks</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Alison, thanks so much for your kind comments.  I love that youre doing id from horse hay &#8211; nothing lie making a job challenging for yourself!  Start by seeing if you can spot easy ones, like rye grass or timothy grass and work up from that.  Good luck!  I think it sounds like a great project!</p>
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		By: Lizzie Harper		</title>
		<link>https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-10013</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lizzie Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2025 22:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-9996&quot;&gt;Derek&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Derek

Not sure where youre based, but if you are in the Uk you could do worse than buy the BSBI book to identifying grasses by Tom Cope and Alan Grey.  You could also invest in the pretty straight forward FSC guide https://www.field-studies-council.org/shop/publications/grasses-guide/ (alas, not with my illustrations; before my time and extremely good).  Another option is to get in touch with your local wildlife trust who may come and do a species study for you, if they&#039;re interested in what&#039;s there?  Or look up your &quot;county botanical recorder&quot;, they may be able to help as well.

Thanks for the question
Yours
Lizzie]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2023/07/common-grass-species-identification-some-easy-shortcuts/#comment-9996">Derek</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Derek</p>
<p>Not sure where youre based, but if you are in the Uk you could do worse than buy the BSBI book to identifying grasses by Tom Cope and Alan Grey.  You could also invest in the pretty straight forward FSC guide https://www.field-studies-council.org/shop/publications/grasses-guide/ (alas, not with my illustrations; before my time and extremely good).  Another option is to get in touch with your local wildlife trust who may come and do a species study for you, if they&#8217;re interested in what&#8217;s there?  Or look up your &#8220;county botanical recorder&#8221;, they may be able to help as well.</p>
<p>Thanks for the question<br />
Yours<br />
Lizzie</p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 17:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a farmer with a range of marsh and hill grass fields and keen to be able to identify the various grasses quickly. Any suggestions please?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a farmer with a range of marsh and hill grass fields and keen to be able to identify the various grasses quickly. Any suggestions please?</p>
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		By: Alison Franks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alison Franks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 11:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your drawings are just exquisite and so wonderfully detailed. I&#039;ve always loved grasses but so struggle to differentiate them. I&#039;m now doing a short project (as part of a course) trying to recognise the grasses in my horses&#039; hay - gee it&#039;s challenging, but your drawings will hopefully help. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your drawings are just exquisite and so wonderfully detailed. I&#8217;ve always loved grasses but so struggle to differentiate them. I&#8217;m now doing a short project (as part of a course) trying to recognise the grasses in my horses&#8217; hay &#8211; gee it&#8217;s challenging, but your drawings will hopefully help. Thank you.</p>
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